Erik Arneson of Arnemancy asked me to join him for a talk about magic, magicians and the non-magical preparations we ought to be thinking about for the future. That podcast came out this morning.

I’m really impressed by the quality of our talk, and I think that we found that there’s a lot to say about navigating between a largely-positive Gordon Whjte-like vision of the multi planetary future, Austin Coppock’s “differently wielded power” model, and John Michael Greer’s ecotechnic future. Enjoy the discussion for yourself and see if you agree.

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